CO129-341 - Acting Governor May Governor Lugard - 1907 [7-10] — Page 444

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Ini Fiddes

how

send these to you to be dealt with by your Dept, but submit

a draft to be sent to Koney the point referred to at the end

of Davis' minute.

m2 725500

54928/11

You saw this with

G00739263/07 Jea

worth while

7

It seems hardly Bosen 5 paras

now

this to 7.0.

1-357 this

? Put by

a.l. 10/2/08 alone P. 10/2

Akons

38186

IT

439

You promised to entertain a further expression

of my views on the legal question.

It is admitted that a ship carrying from

Hong Kong a certain number of Indians is a "Chinese

Passenger Ship" within the meaning of the Imperial

Act of 1855 and that the only difficulty arises out

of the wording of the Hong Kong Ordinance, the provisions of which you regard as not applying to Indians.

Ships carrying Indians are of course still

liable to the provisions of the Imperial Act, but I

understand you to hold that no Court would forfeit

under Section 8 for having cleared without the papers

mentioned in Section 4 seeing that the action of the

Hong Kong Legislature has in fact made it impossible

for them to obtain such papers.

Does not what has, according to your view,

happened amount to this, viz:- that the intention of

the Imperial Act has pro tanto been defeated by the

Legislature of Hong Kong? But the Law Officers state

in their opinion of the 28th February 1907 that the

Hong Kong Legislature has not the power to alter the

definition of a "Chinese Passenger Ship" and that the

power of that Legislature to make regulations respecting

the class of ships defined by the (Imperial) Act does

not extend to altering the definition of the class of

ships respecting which the regulations may be made.

It

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Ini Fiddes how send these to you to be dealt with by your Dept, but submit a draft to be sent to Koney the point referred to at the end of Davis' minute. m2 725500 54928/11 You saw this with G00739263/07 Jea worth while 7 It seems hardly Bosen 5 paras now this to 7.0. 1-357 this ? Put by a.l. 10/2/08 alone P. 10/2 Akons 38186 IT 439 You promised to entertain a further expression of my views on the legal question. It is admitted that a ship carrying from Hong Kong a certain number of Indians is a "Chinese Passenger Ship" within the meaning of the Imperial Act of 1855 and that the only difficulty arises out of the wording of the Hong Kong Ordinance, the provisions of which you regard as not applying to Indians. Ships carrying Indians are of course still liable to the provisions of the Imperial Act, but I understand you to hold that no Court would forfeit under Section 8 for having cleared without the papers mentioned in Section 4 seeing that the action of the Hong Kong Legislature has in fact made it impossible for them to obtain such papers. Does not what has, according to your view, happened amount to this, viz:- that the intention of the Imperial Act has pro tanto been defeated by the Legislature of Hong Kong? But the Law Officers state in their opinion of the 28th February 1907 that the Hong Kong Legislature has not the power to alter the definition of a "Chinese Passenger Ship" and that the power of that Legislature to make regulations respecting the class of ships defined by the (Imperial) Act does not extend to altering the definition of the class of ships respecting which the regulations may be made. It
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Ini Fiddes how send these to you to be dealt with by your Dept, but submit a draft to be sent to t Koney the point referred to at the end 5 hn Davis' minute. m2 725500 54928/11 You saw this with G00739263/07 Jea worth while 7 It seeins hardly Bosen 5 paras now this to 7.0. 1-357 this ? Put by a.l. 10/2/08 alome P. 10/2 Akons 38186 IT 439 You promised to entertain a further expression of my views on the legal question. It is admitted that a ship carrying from HongKong a certain number of Indians is a "Chinese Passenger Ship" within the meaning of the Imperial Act of 1855 and that the only difficulty arises out of the wording of the HongKong Ordinance, the provi- sions of which you regard as not applying to Indians. Ships carrying Indians are of course still liable to the provisions of the Imperial Act, but I understand you to hold that no Court would forfeit under Section 8 for having cleared without the papers mentioned in Section 4 seeing that the action of the HongKong Legislature has in fact made it impossible for them to obtain such papers. Does not what has, according to your view, happened amount to this, viz:- that the intention of the Imperial Act has pro tanto been defeated by the Legislature of HongKong? But the law Officers state in their opinion of the 28th February 1907 that the HongKong Legislature has not the power to alter the definition of a "Chinese Passenger Ship" and that the power of that Legislature to make regulations respecting the class of ships defined by the (Imperial) Act does not extend to altering the definition of the class of ships respecting which the regulations may be made. It }
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Ini Fiddes

how

send these to you to be dealt with by your Dept, but submit

a draft to be sent to t Koney the point referred to at the end 5

hn Davis'

minute.

m2 725500

54928/11

You saw this with

G00739263/07 Jea

worth while

7

It seeins hardly Bosen 5 paras

now

this to 7.0.

1-357 this

? Put by

a.l. 10/2/08 alome P. 10/2

Akons

38186

IT

439

You promised to entertain a further expression

of my views on the legal question.

It is admitted that a ship carrying from

HongKong a certain number of Indians is a "Chinese

Passenger Ship" within the meaning of the Imperial

Act of 1855 and that the only difficulty arises out

of the wording of the HongKong Ordinance, the provi-

sions of which you regard as not applying to Indians.

Ships carrying Indians are of course still

liable to the provisions of the Imperial Act, but I

understand you to hold that no Court would forfeit

under Section 8 for having cleared without the papers

mentioned in Section 4 seeing that the action of the

HongKong Legislature has in fact made it impossible

for them to obtain such papers.

Does not what has, according to your view,

happened amount to this, viz:- that the intention of

the Imperial Act has pro tanto been defeated by the

Legislature of HongKong? But the law Officers state

in their opinion of the 28th February 1907 that the

HongKong Legislature has not the power to alter the

definition of a "Chinese Passenger Ship" and that the

power of that Legislature to make regulations respecting

the class of ships defined by the (Imperial) Act does

not extend to altering the definition of the class of

ships respecting which the regulations may be made.

It

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